WEBVTT Kind: captions; language: en-us

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:00:01.900 --> 00:00:10.600
alright we're back so welcome to this fourth lecture in economic anthropology. Today we're going to 

00:00:10.600 --> 00:00:22.100
talk more about gifts and commodities, so this orchestra we could say that we started listening to in 

00:00:22.100 --> 00:00:28.900
the first lecture it keeps on playing and we're getting deeper and deeper into the sounds that we're 

00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:32.100
hearing so notice that since week one as we've

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:41.450
talk about we heard this one clear tone by Milton and Rose Friedman and their

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:00:41.450 --> 00:00:50.900
ideas of what characterises the economic life which we summarises as the neoliberal consensus and 

00:00:50.900 --> 00:00:58.000
since then we've been adding concepts and you could say instruments that allow us to understand more 

00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:07.500
of what's going on and to go beyond that one clear tone and the point of this course is of course to 

00:01:07.500 --> 00:01:11.350
understand the we could say the rhythms of 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:01:11.350 --> 00:01:17.300
economic life to learn to listen to start to listen to the world in a new way to see the world in a 

00:01:17.300 --> 00:01:27.950
new way and in a sense that is also what I've told you is about, as a whole. we go to Faraway places 

00:01:27.950 --> 00:01:34.500
other times in order to notice what is going on what's kind of strange right here where we live what 

00:01:34.500 --> 00:01:41.350
we take for granted you know this is something that you could use to summarise the subject 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:01:41.350 --> 00:01:48.600
That you're studying we're doing research that helps to make what is strange more familiar and what is 

00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:51.100
familiar more strange. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:01:51.100 --> 00:02:00.900
So remember that the last thing that a fish would come to realise is the water that it's swimming in 

00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:06.600
and in the same sense we could say that we're discovering through this course the economic waters 

00:02:06.600 --> 00:02:14.300
that were all swimming in much of which we take thoroughly for granted, so that is just to remind you 

00:02:14.300 --> 00:02:21.050
of what's going on on the grander scale here, but as you can see today we're going to go 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:02:21.050 --> 00:02:28.100
deeper into the fundamental distinction that we've been talking about in one lecture already namely 

00:02:28.100 --> 00:02:37.500
the distinction between gifts and commodities. To switch it up a little bit I wanted to 

00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:44.300
start by showing you a video clip of perhaps the best film 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:02:44.300 --> 00:02:52.500
ever made some of you might know it many of you I think have heard about it let me see if I could 

00:02:52.500 --> 00:03:00.600
change here yes so now we're in YouTube and we're going to listen to a six minute clip that will 

00:03:00.600 --> 00:03:04.750
break open what we're going to talk about today 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:03:04.750 --> 00:03:15.900
very efficiently so bear with me six minutes of the opening scene of the film The Godfather, let's 

00:03:15.900 --> 00:03:18.100
listen to what they have to say. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:03:22.100 --> 00:03:25.400
I believe in America, 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:03:25.900 --> 00:03:28.399
America has made my fortune

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:03:28.399 --> 00:03:32.400
and I raised my daughter in the American fashion 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:38.649
I gave her freedom but I taught her never to dishonour family 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:03:38.649 --> 00:03:47.800
she found a boyfriend; not an Italian. she went to the movies with him; she stayed out late. I didn't 

00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.250
protest 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:03:49.250 --> 00:03:54.950
two months ago, he took her for a drive with another boyfriend 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:03:54.950 --> 00:04:05.000
they made her drink whiskey and then they tried to take advantage of her. She resisted. She kept her honor, so they beat her

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:04:09.300 --> 00:04:12.100
like an animal. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:23.600
When I went to the hospital her nose was broken, her jaw was shattered, held together by wire.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.600
she couldn't even weep because of the pain. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:04:29.500 --> 00:04:34.900
But I wept. Why did I weep? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:39.500
she was the light of my life -

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.200
beautiful girl 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:04:45.400 --> 00:04:49.400
now she will never be beautiful again.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.700
I went to the police, like a good American. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:05:09.700 --> 00:05:13.100
These two boys were brought to trial.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:05:13.100 --> 00:05:19.299
The judge sentenced them to three years in prison - suspended sentence.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 77% (HØY)

00:05:19.299 --> 00:05:31.600
Suspended sentence! They went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool. And those to 

00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.600
Bastards, they smiled at me. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:05:34.700 --> 00:05:42.100
Then I said to my wife, "for justice, we must go to Don Corleone." 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:05:46.500 --> 00:05:50.800
Why did you go to the police? Why didn't you come to me first 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:43.600
What do you want of me? Tell me anything. But do what I beg you to do. I'll give you anything you ask. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:06:43.900 --> 00:06:50.700
We've known each other many years, but this is the first time you came to me for counsel, for help. I can't remember the last time that you invited me to your house for a cup of coffee, even though my wife is godmother to your only child. But let's be frank here: you never wanted my friendship. An, you were afraid to be in my debt. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:07:11.400 --> 00:07:14.300
I understand. You found paradise in America, had a good trade, made a good living. The police protected you; and there were courts of law. And you didn't need a friend of me. But now you come to me and you say "Don Corleone give me justice" but you don't ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:07:30.900 --> 00:07:38.900
You don't even think to call me Godfather. Instead, you come into my house on the day my daughter is to be married, and you as me to do murder, for money.

00:07:38.900 --> 00:07:47.600
I ask you for justice. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:07:50.700 --> 00:07:53.300
That is not justice; your daughter is still alive. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.900
Then they can suffer then, as she suffers. How much shall I pay you?

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:08:37.100 --> 00:08:39.500


NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:09:33.800 --> 00:09:36.800
all right let's see 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:09:36.800 --> 00:09:48.800
yes we're back so there is something strange going on here I think that we fail to understand if we 

00:09:48.800 --> 00:09:57.100
don't understand what we're going to talk about today and what we have been talking about until now 

00:09:57.100 --> 00:10:03.300
in this course and there's something going on in this relationship in this interaction that we don't 

00:10:03.300 --> 00:10:04.500
understand 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:10:04.500 --> 00:10:15.950
by any stretch of the imagination if we apply the logic of the Friedman and Friedman piece because 

00:10:15.950 --> 00:10:22.000
here is someone being offered let's say $10,000 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.200
to do something that they're capable of doing 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:10:28.400 --> 00:10:31.500
yet they consider that 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM)

00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:40.000
a deep insult, what have I ever done to make you treat me with such disrespect says Vito Corleone.

00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:45.750
Yet had Bonasera 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:10:45.750 --> 00:10:52.100
only gone to his wife and invited her for a cup of coffee 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:56.650
then he would do that same thing in the blink of an eye 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:10:56.650 --> 00:11:06.200
so why is it that someone would kill another person or a pair of persons for a cup of coffee 

00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:17.200
when given as a gift but consider $10,000 transacted them as a commodity for the same job as a deep 

00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:26.950
insult this is the dilemma for this week's reading that this is an example 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:11:26.950 --> 00:11:33.100
that can help you think through the distinction that we're going to be talking about today 

00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:38.550
and namely the distinction between gifts and commodities, fundamental distinction in economic anthropology 

00:11:38.550 --> 00:11:47.100
and just to take it a step further let's add a second example and I'll just summarise this very 

00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:52.900
quickly because you know it from from one of the first lectures that we went through remember that 

00:11:52.900 --> 00:11:56.750
lady who sits outside Kiwi at John Collets plass at Blindern 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:11:56.750 --> 00:12:08.950
That old Roma woman who went from asking passerbys for money to help her or to give her money 

00:12:08.950 --> 00:12:19.200
one day decided what if I start knitting mittens what if I start selling things creating a service 

00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:24.200
that looks more like what is going on inside the grocery store 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:35.900
this is a very efficient way of getting people to hand poor person money performance of 

00:12:35.900 --> 00:12:44.800
commodity exchange rather than the discomfort that some people feel from giving a gift free money to 

00:12:44.800 --> 00:12:52.000
a poor person when she enters into a commodity exchange she becomes successful so why is it that 

00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.500
someone would refuse to give money to a poor person as a gift 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:12:55.500 --> 00:13:02.500
but gladly hand money to a poor person just because she or he is performing a commodity exchange 

00:13:02.500 --> 00:13:08.300
that we talked about, I don't know how many unused pairs of mittens and winter hats there are in 

00:13:08.300 --> 00:13:14.200
around in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Norway Ullevål Hageby and I'm

00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:21.800
willing to bet my months salary that there are tons of unused mittens laying around that people 

00:13:21.800 --> 00:13:25.250
bought just because it felt more comfortable to engage in a commodity 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:13:25.250 --> 00:13:36.700
Exchange with this woman then it is to give her money up front, just as people buy magazines from people 

00:13:36.700 --> 00:13:45.750
with drug problems on the street and never read them but nonetheless feel comfortable in engaging in 

00:13:45.750 --> 00:13:52.600
a relationship where one person sells his or her labor and you buy that labor as a customer as a 

00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.000
client.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:00.950
so what is it about these different examples that lead us to act so differently? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:14:00.950 --> 00:14:08.800
I think we have some of the answers already we've already talked a bit in this course 

00:14:08.800 --> 00:14:17.000
about the power of gifts so you know perhaps some of the answers. We remember when we talk about gifts 

00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:24.300
in this course I want you to think about the prime example in the ethnographic cannon namely the Kula

00:14:24.300 --> 00:14:30.750
exchange we remember Mauss okay but in this lecture we will focus 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:14:30.750 --> 00:14:38.300
also on the mirror image here the nature of Commodities and they relations what is the 

00:14:38.300 --> 00:14:43.900
difference between gifts and commodities or more precisely what is the difference between gift 

00:14:43.900 --> 00:14:51.900
exchange and commodity exchange, we will dive in to the logic that defines these two examples. Bonasera

00:14:51.900 --> 00:14:58.099
and Vito Corleone in The Godfather and poor person offering 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:14:58.099 --> 00:15:04.500
commodity exchange instead of gift exchange and succeeding on the street.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:15:04.500 --> 00:15:12.600
we'll dive into the logic that lies behind these two examples, but first let's take a step back 

00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:19.600
and see where are we coming from now in this course what have we talked about so far we've kept 

00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:26.250
adding concepts this is one way of running down the course literature as we talked about last week 

00:15:26.250 --> 00:15:32.700
you can keep adding concepts freedom, marke, neoliberalism, Kula exchange, gifts, embeddedness 

00:15:32.700 --> 00:15:34.800
Commodities and then you can match all these up with

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:15:34.800 --> 00:15:42.100
the different readings that you've done and see how they link up interestingly. That is kind of where 

00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:51.900
the gold lies and this course try to create relations between the readings not just consider 

00:15:51.900 --> 00:16:04.650
them as islands and so we kept adding concepts to this orchestra sound, we could add a 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM)

00:16:04.650 --> 00:16:13.200
fictitious commodities the double movement that we read about last week from Polanyi and of course 

00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:18.900
all these things I think by laying it up like this I'm not saying that the syllabus kind of adds up 

00:16:18.900 --> 00:16:28.900
to one argument because it goes in many different directions it is after all an orchestra you 

00:16:28.900 --> 00:16:34.700
know with sounds that are that are quite different but nonetheless that come together and 

00:16:34.700 --> 00:16:36.050
produce 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:16:36.050 --> 00:16:47.350
what we call economic life, but but we could nonetheless see or carve out one argument one type of 

00:16:47.350 --> 00:16:57.200
accumulated reasoning here in this these first few four weeks that would frame what we're 

00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:04.950
talking about today. So from week one we remember the Friedman's talk about 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:17:04.950 --> 00:17:13.849
voluntary exchanges in markets as the foundation for the economy and that scales up into a human 

00:17:13.849 --> 00:17:24.800
prosperity and fulfilment. Harvey comes in David Harvey the political Economist saying how strange 

00:17:24.800 --> 00:17:30.100
it is that these so-called voluntary exchanges have produced such stunning levels of inequality 

00:17:30.100 --> 00:17:34.500
there is something going on here beyond 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:41.700
voluntary exchange and he says in his title freedom is just a word the neoliberal economists use 

00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:47.700
this word to make money for themselves and take more economic power as reflected in Harvey's statistics.

00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:57.600
Second week the market market economy that we know today and that we take 

00:17:57.600 --> 00:18:03.300
for granted today was never natural to man as it is assumed in the neoliberal consensus it was 

00:18:03.300 --> 00:18:05.450
created it was 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:18:05.450 --> 00:18:15.400
set into motion at a specific period in history and this is what Marcel Mauss and Karl Polanyi who

00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:23.400
surveys this history and surveys the ethnographic record they develop this argument and they reach the 

00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:30.450
conclusion specially put on these summary that reciprocity redistribution house holding that is 

00:18:30.450 --> 00:18:35.500
producing for your own consumption not for market exchange 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:42.000
these were the principles that organised economic systems for most of human history up until around 

00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.300
the 19th century across the world.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM)

00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:55.900
and of course Polanyi is interested in what was happened then in the 

00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:09.600
break that the Industrial Revolution represented. You see that the commodity concept emerges. I 

00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:15.300
want you to remember this from last week. The commodity concept 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:19:15.300 --> 00:19:25.600
is the key element in the process where in which the economy becomes disembedded as Polanyi talks 

00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:35.650
about, remember how he notes how there was a historical and political process through which 

00:19:35.650 --> 00:19:43.850
labor started to get treated as a commodity we got separated from the person and 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:19:43.850 --> 00:19:49.600
even though it was a fictitious commodity it was never made for the market it was separated from the 

00:19:49.600 --> 00:19:59.350
person and started to get traded you can sell your labor sell your work in a factory similarly land 

00:19:59.350 --> 00:20:08.900
and something that was never made for the market that was which is just part of nature was cut out 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM)

00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:19.100
disembedded and turned into a commodity, and I want to say this because this is the bridge from 

00:20:19.100 --> 00:20:26.450
the disembedded and the processes of economic disembedding that we talked about last week and the 

00:20:26.450 --> 00:20:33.600
different forms of commodification and the commodity concept that we are talking about this week so to 

00:20:33.600 --> 00:20:38.550
create this sphere of exchange that is separate to create and maintain 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:20:38.550 --> 00:20:44.900
this illusion the utopia of a disembedded economy an economy that's detached from society from 

00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:54.600
moral concerns from gift logics from kinship structures to create this sphere which operates 

00:20:54.600 --> 00:21:05.250
allegedly on its own you have to turn things and people into commodities says Polanyi. Okay so what 

00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:07.800
are commodities then? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:21:07.800 --> 00:21:11.850
let's have a closer look what separates them from gifts? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:21:11.850 --> 00:21:21.950
gifts as you all remember have certain characteristics, let's begin in that side of the continuum here. 

00:21:21.950 --> 00:21:29.700
What is the most famous example of gifts in anthropological theory? Just hearing  

00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:34.900
the word gifts and anthropology in a sentence should kind of make a bell go off in your head saying 

00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:42.150
ding ding ding of course the Kula exchange on the Trobriand islands and what characterized 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:21:42.150 --> 00:21:47.700
the Kula? then you can go back in the syllabus back a few weeks and we can go back to Malinowski or 

00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:57.000
Mauss who summarized much of what Malinowski presented in terms of ethnographic data saying 

00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:05.100
that gifts are never totally separated from the men who exchanged them and so the alliance 

00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:12.050
contracted in a gift exchange is not temporary and the Contracting parties are bound 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:22:12.050 --> 00:22:15.700
In perpetual interdependence 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:22:16.500 --> 00:22:18.600


NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:32.400
So the Kula partners are in a game of exchanging gifts and arm shells and necklaces that will never 

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:41.100
actually end there's a debt that goes on and on and on the point is to keep it going it is 

00:22:41.100 --> 00:22:42.750
not temporary 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:49.500
and the second crucial part here the gifts are never totally separated from the men who exchange them.

00:22:49.500 --> 00:22:58.700
There's a piece of the giver inside as if it were the item itself there's a piece of you in the gift 

00:22:58.700 --> 00:23:07.100
that you give that follows the gift is that spirit the hau the mana of the gift that makes you as a 

00:23:07.100 --> 00:23:14.000
receiver feel that debt from the one who gives it. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:23:14.600 --> 00:23:23.100
This should be known to you by now, but again we are summarizing and putting things on the 

00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:34.000
syllabus into relation. Chris Gregory who we read for today takes this a step further Chris Gregory 

00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:40.100
is perhaps the most well known 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:23:40.100 --> 00:23:49.800
Anthropological theorists of gifts and commodities since Mauss and Polanyi if we could claim Polanyi as an 

00:23:49.800 --> 00:24:02.000
anthropologist and Gregory says and observes something that I think is key about gift transactions.

00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:10.300
That is what a gift transactor personally gives gifts or receives gifts what 

00:24:10.300 --> 00:24:10.650
A person

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:24:10.650 --> 00:24:20.800
who's engaged in gift exchange desires is not primarily the things in themselves it is the personal 

00:24:20.800 --> 00:24:24.500
relationships that the exchange of gifts create. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:24:24.500 --> 00:24:26.650


NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:24:26.650 --> 00:24:34.600
This is one of the sentences.. I will try and alert you to them and 

00:24:34.600 --> 00:24:41.200
whenever they come up but I think this is one of the sentences that where you would 

00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:50.000
take the elevator up to the top floor of the SV building at Blindern and scream it from the 

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:56.699
rooftops, because it's fundamentally true. What a gift transactor desires 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:24:56.699 --> 00:25:03.500
is the personal relationships that the exchange of gifts creates and not the things 

00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:05.449
In itself 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:25:05.449 --> 00:25:15.400
so in other words this is an anthropological formulation reflecting the common saying that it's the 

00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:23.300
thought that counts with a gift it's the relationship that is the key, and that relationship is 

00:25:23.300 --> 00:25:34.400
supposed to keep going and not be terminated. Let's see how that insight fits with 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:25:34.800 --> 00:25:37.700
the 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:25:38.500 --> 00:25:45.400
two protagonist we open with namely Vito Corleone and Bonasera 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:53.900
let's go into their dialogue here. Bonasera says he you know after his daughter has 

00:25:53.900 --> 00:26:04.600
been mistreated or raped violated by these men he comes to The Godfather and he says I'll give you 

00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:06.250
anything you ask 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:26:06.250 --> 00:26:11.700
and Vito Corleone looks at him and says we've known each other for many years but this is the 

00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:20.800
first time you've come to me for counsel for help, so there's not much of a history here I can't 

00:26:20.800 --> 00:26:26.200
remember the last time you invited me to your house for a cup of coffee even though my wife is 

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:32.600
godmother to your only child, but let's be frank here you never wanted my friendship you were afraid 

00:26:32.600 --> 00:26:34.300
to be in my debt.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:26:34.300 --> 00:26:40.300
Bonasera says okay I was kind of afraid I didn't want to get into trouble you know that Vito Corleone

00:26:40.300 --> 00:26:47.300
is quite a powerful man and perhaps on the wrong side of the law. Vito Corleone says I

00:26:47.300 --> 00:26:57.100
understand but so you thought that you were protected by the courts of law but and then you 

00:26:57.100 --> 00:27:02.300
didn't need a friend like me and now you come to me and you say Don Corleone give me 

00:27:02.300 --> 00:27:04.550
justice but you do not ask me 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:27:04.550 --> 00:27:10.700
with respect you don't offer friendship you don't even think to call me Godfather. Instead you come 

00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:16.250
to my house the day my daughter is getting married and you ask me to murder for money.

00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:26.500
This upsets him terribly. The background disagreement that these two 

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:33.700
characters are having is what kind of logic are we working with here are we working in the commodity 

00:27:33.700 --> 00:27:34.650
logic 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:27:34.650 --> 00:27:45.500
or are we dealing with a gift relationship? Step 2 what is it that you want I ask for justice that 

00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:57.200
they will be killed, but that's not Justice says Corleone. How much shall I pay you? again he turns it into a 

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.850
commodity logic 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:27:58.850 --> 00:28:06.900
and then Corleone becomes visibly upset saying what have I done for  

00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:09.300
you treat me so disrespectfully 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:28:09.800 --> 00:28:21.100
and then he finally assumes this relationship this friendship and says okay I will be your friend be 

00:28:21.100 --> 00:28:33.650
my friend I will bow to you and then he says the most famous sentence in this very famous dialogue 

00:28:33.650 --> 00:28:40.800
which is you know torn straight from Malinowski's

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:28:40.800 --> 00:28:46.500
three obligations of the gift as you remember the obligation to give, the obligation to receive, then 

00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:51.700
the obligation to reciprocate. There is an expectation 

00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:58.600
there's a hau there's a spirit within the gift that you feel as a receiver because then says Vito Corleone

00:28:58.600 --> 00:29:04.600
some day and that day may never come I'll call upon you to do a service for me but to 

00:29:04.600 --> 00:29:10.550
give back but until this day except this justice as a 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:29:10.550 --> 00:29:14.850
gift on my daughter's wedding day. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:29:14.850 --> 00:29:17.900
So again 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM)

00:29:17.900 --> 00:29:29.300
gifts create debt, gifts are never finished and they contrast with market purchases. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:29:29.300 --> 00:29:37.200
Bonasera tried to purchase this favor how much shall I pay you he tried invoking 

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:43.100
the commodity logic but then the Godfather insisted that hey this is something else 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:29:43.100 --> 00:29:48.900
we are not doing commodity exchange here we're doing gift exchange remember the trobriand Islanders 

00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:54.600
complaining that people are doing Kula as if it was gimwali market exchange 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:29:54.600 --> 00:30:01.199
remember that from Malinowksis piece this is the exact same thing. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:30:01.199 --> 00:30:09.000
So let's try and summarize then on the basis of this what we know about gifts. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:19.900
Gifts produce reciprocal interdependence so you keep relying on each other in a 

00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:30.400
relationship that has no clear ending, that keeps going. I buy you coffee one day the point is 

00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.600
that you're going to buy me a coffee or even a piece of cake another day rather I've actually prefer 

00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:40.150
it be a piece of cake or a beer 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:30:40.150 --> 00:30:51.300
that does not measure equally, we keep a debt going that is the basis of human sociality. So gifts 

00:30:51.300 --> 00:30:54.850
are all about reciprocal interdependence. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:30:54.850 --> 00:30:57.900
the stuff that we give 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:30:57.900 --> 00:31:05.100
Are inalienable items the'yre personal there's a part of the giver in the items 

00:31:05.100 --> 00:31:16.100
itself, which is what Marcel Mauss calls the hau the spirit of the gift taken from Maori cosmology 

00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:23.800
the exchange of gifts as objects creates relationships between people 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:31:23.800 --> 00:31:29.900
we say it's the thought that counts it's the relation it's not that thing that is the central 

00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:37.250
concern in gift exchange it is obviously important but it's the thought that counts as we say 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:47.000
and finally gifts says Marcel Mauss is a total social phenomena it's not just an economic 

00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:53.400
phenomena it's something that is connected to all domains of life, religion, law, morality, kinship 

00:31:53.400 --> 00:32:01.200
economics, politics it is a total social phenomenon not just an economic phenomenon.  

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:07.600
Chris Gregory in the piece that you read for this week claims that commodities and commodity 

00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:15.900
exchange is the mirror image of this logic this gifts and gifts exchange, you could see 

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:22.450
Commodities and gifts as extremes on a continuum of how we organize human value. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:32:22.450 --> 00:32:31.300
So what then about commodities and commodity exchange what about the other extreme on this continuum 

00:32:31.300 --> 00:32:33.949
of human value and 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:32:33.949 --> 00:32:43.600
human meaning? the answer is within the examples that we've laid out within the dialogue of Bonasera 

00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:54.300
within the Kula within our examples from beggars outside grocery stores but let's go deeper 

00:32:54.300 --> 00:33:02.000
and more systemically to work here and draw on the help is very helpful and insightful chapter that we 

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.600
reading from Chris Gregory,

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:13.800
but before we do that I thought we would take a break or at least let me take a break and let 

00:33:13.800 --> 00:33:21.700
me pour myself a cup of coffee and then we come back to commodities in a short while. 