WEBVTT Kind: captions; language: en-us

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.800
I promised Giorgios who is having a knee injury or knee operation or 

00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:15.399
something today, he's a marathon runner I don't know if you knew this. I'm sure he has maybe told 

00:00:15.399 --> 00:00:20.500
you, but he's a very good runner and have some thing with the doctor so he couldn't make it. Even 

00:00:20.500 --> 00:00:24.900
though I don't want to record actually the lecturers I'm making an exception for our glorious leader 

00:00:24.900 --> 00:00:26.700
Giorgos 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:35.300
because I want to have I want us to come back to this strange thing that we've 

00:00:35.300 --> 00:00:39.000
been doing for a few hundred years which is the physical lecture where we see each other face to 

00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:45.800
face, and I can also interact with you guys and also to have this as a live thing is a way to 

00:00:45.800 --> 00:00:52.000
underline something that I actually very much believe in when it comes to study technique is that 

00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:58.600
I want you to be careful not to become 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:08.000
human copy machines, because this is a very easy thing to do when you start to study is like you're 

00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:13.800
thrown out in the deep end of the pool and there's just like consumption, commodity, fetishism, 

00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:20.100
alienation, dis-embedding all this kind of scary stuff and then in order to try to learn to swim you 

00:01:20.100 --> 00:01:27.400
reach for some some kind of inflatable thing and that is often the the notes okay so I have to make 

00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:28.550
a lot of notes 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:01:28.550 --> 00:01:37.800
at least I have that so that I can be prepared for the exam and maybe even have like now a 

00:01:37.800 --> 00:01:43.000
catalog of lectures that you've stored on a folder on your computer and you know that you can go 

00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:49.300
back to that catalog and listen to them because then you'll understand, and I don't think 

00:01:49.300 --> 00:01:55.600
that is a good way to study I think we want to encourage you not to be a human copy machine and 

00:01:55.600 --> 00:01:58.300
rather to become people who think. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:01:58.300 --> 00:02:04.400
For that to start to happen you often have to do something which is a little bit scary 

00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:09.800
which is to take a little bit less notes, and also just listen to me as a human being and interact 

00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:15.300
with me as a human being. Just like someone who's sitting down with you and talking to you about 

00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:25.600
something that I have read and then you talk back to me or think with me, so don't make too 

00:02:25.600 --> 00:02:28.500
many notes it can often be like 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:02:28.500 --> 00:02:34.800
grabbing for crutches when you have a little foot injury, I didn't even think about that 

00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.000
reference to Gergios now but 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:02:40.100 --> 00:02:49.400
so please I hope you'll come here for the final half of the semester and ask 

00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:57.200
me stuff. Feel free to interrupt and shoot me your questions, it's a little bit of a scary room not 

00:02:57.200 --> 00:03:04.400
only do I feel like God but it's also like so huge and I wish we could all sit here in a circle but 

00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:08.350
we don't so I know it can be a little bit scary for to hear someone talk for so long 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:03:08.350 --> 00:03:15.000
and then you're just supposed to shoot a question back, but I'll do what I can to make it feel a little 

00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:24.450
bit less awkward if not come up to me whenever or shoot me an email. So everything is still fine online 

00:03:24.450 --> 00:03:37.200
let's check, chat yes. Alright lecture 7, this clock is not working that's good but we're 

00:03:37.200 --> 00:03:38.350
talking about consumption and I 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:03:38.350 --> 00:03:41.000
think before you 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 77% (HØY)

00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:50.650
What did you do before you came here? that's what I thought about when I biked here. 

00:03:50.650 --> 00:04:00.600
I think we've all been doing two things between waking up, seeing that the sun is shining thinking 

00:04:00.600 --> 00:04:06.400
today is the first day of my physical lecture in economic anthropology with Ståle "yes!" that's of 

00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.500
course what went through your head as you opened your eyes, and then you did two things if you 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:18.250
a little bit like me or if you're a normal human being. A: you got up and you stood in front of 

00:04:18.250 --> 00:04:26.200
wherever you have the clothes and you thought what am I going to wear today? maybe you thought about 

00:04:26.200 --> 00:04:35.900
it yesterday actually, but I think someone agonised in front of that choice others were just like 

00:04:35.900 --> 00:04:40.500
okay I'm putting on this, but we all were faced with that moment 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:04:40.500 --> 00:04:47.000
where you could have gone either way or it could have put on whatever and you put on whatever you 

00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:54.200
put on today. So you made that choice that's one thing that you did today and secondly I think you 

00:04:54.200 --> 00:04:57.800
went for a cup of coffee, most of you. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:04:59.400 --> 00:05:06.600
Today we are going to learn a little bit about what it means to take an anthropological look at 

00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:13.300
those two things those two processes and I want you to notice also something that I thought about 

00:05:13.300 --> 00:05:17.300
when I biked here that immediately that this is 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:05:18.200 --> 00:05:27.500
quite a faraway leap from the Trobriand islands okay we're not we no longer in the trobriand islands 

00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:34.100
were no longer trying to understand about what all these faraway people are doing with shells and 

00:05:34.100 --> 00:05:46.200
necklaces were in our own bedrooms we are kind of in our ordinary choices working with 

00:05:46.200 --> 00:05:48.700
topics that are incredibly 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:55.900
Common to ourselves and of course what's going on in the trobriand islands and what's common to 

00:05:55.900 --> 00:06:03.500
ourselves has very much to do with each other which is the one of the important messages of the 

00:06:03.500 --> 00:06:10.000
course but just to note that this is also anthropology, and I keep thinking about that cousin of 

00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:17.900
mine that idiot who said it "what does economy have to do with anthropology?" what 

00:06:17.900 --> 00:06:18.549
are you doing 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:06:18.549 --> 00:06:24.800
kind of studying that and being like enthusiastic about economic anthropology and 

00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:32.450
Anthropology surely doesn't have anything to do with economic life. Today we're going to learn two very 

00:06:32.450 --> 00:06:41.400
common trends we could say consumption practices, putting on a pair of pants or choosing what to wear 

00:06:41.400 --> 00:06:48.700
and having a sip of something hot in the morning which almost always is 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:06:48.700 --> 00:06:51.900
coffee, why is that?

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:06:54.000 --> 00:07:05.200
okay so economy is often one of those I remember also by the way when I studied this that someone 

00:07:05.200 --> 00:07:12.800
asked me what is your definition of the economy or economic, I was completely like shocked because I 

00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:18.400
didn't know what to answer I don't know if I ask 

00:07:18.400 --> 00:07:24.650
you if anyone has a definition of the economy or the economic 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:07:24.650 --> 00:07:33.000
I won't do it because I'm a nice guy but it's a kind of an intimidating thing and one kind of 

00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:39.300
thing that could help you is to think of the economic and of course we're going to destroy this 

00:07:39.300 --> 00:07:48.300
definition in the course of this lecture or at least critique it a little bit but what economic 

00:07:48.300 --> 00:07:54.799
things are about it's actually very easy way out of this 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:07:54.799 --> 00:08:01.400
question, it is what people do when they engage in production exchange, distribution and consumption. 

00:08:01.400 --> 00:08:07.600
This is a very common kind of political economy definition of economic behavior is what goes 

00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:15.400
on when people do go about and do produce things distribute things exchange things 

00:08:15.400 --> 00:08:20.800
and consume. So today consumption 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:08:21.300 --> 00:08:26.500
and of course as I said towards the end of the class and maybe some of you have already read the 

00:08:26.500 --> 00:08:32.600
text by David Graeber we become a bit less sure about this whether this concept of 

00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:37.299
consumption belongs actually in that 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:08:41.400 --> 00:08:47.900
in those four words if it belongs up there, so today as I said 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:08:48.700 --> 00:08:54.950
coffee pants and the concept of consumption. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:08:54.950 --> 00:09:02.000
We're going to leave the concept of consumption towards the end or the second half of the 

00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:07.800
lecture, just to go easy on you from the get-go.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:09:08.800 --> 00:09:17.900
We're dealing with two authors who have different approaches Daniel Miller and 

00:09:17.900 --> 00:09:27.700
Sophie Woodward and William Roseberry but they're basically asking a similar question 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:34.000
and that is can the study of a changing marketing and consumption patterns of a single commodity 

00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:40.300
this is the jeans or the cup of coffee at a particular moment shed some light on why the

00:09:40.300 --> 00:09:44.650
range of social and cultural shifts 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:09:44.650 --> 00:09:49.150
so they both kind of answer yes to this question 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:09:49.150 --> 00:09:56.600
and try to show you via a case such as jeans and coffee.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:09:59.500 --> 00:10:08.000
Let's begin with Miller okay Daniel Miller maybe some of you know him, he is teamed up with Sophie 

00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:17.900
Woodward but Daniel Miller is a very well-known name in anthropology and economic anthropology. He 

00:10:17.900 --> 00:10:24.900
is known more than anyone I think as kind of that guy who studies consumption or theorizes 

00:10:24.900 --> 00:10:30.200
consumption shopping his book is called dialectics of shopping 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:38.800
that we read back in the day was assigned for this course actually and he was kind of a pioneer in 

00:10:38.800 --> 00:10:47.450
in the growth of the anthropological study of consumption in the late 1980s and he likes these words 

00:10:47.450 --> 00:10:57.750
dialectics, you'll see it in the text also he really likes it. It's kind of complicated but not 

00:10:57.750 --> 00:11:00.150
necessarily so complicated after 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:11:00.150 --> 00:11:08.400
all, it's about how processes it's called in Norwegian "vekselvirkning" it 

00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:17.849
kind of just like dialectic between let's see 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:11:17.849 --> 00:11:29.600
hot and cold like the temperature of the day is a dialectic between day and night 

00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:35.450
it's a little bit of complicated way to say the sun rises gets warm and then 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:11:35.450 --> 00:11:41.800
sun goes away get cold yeah. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:11:41.800 --> 00:11:50.000
It's a continual process like always from one to the other there's a dialectic between 

00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:55.000
capital and labor in Marxist writing. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 72% (MEDIUM)

00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:01.500
There's a thesis an antithesis and then there's a synthesis and then the 

00:12:01.500 --> 00:12:08.000
synthesis becomes the thesis and antithesis. All this is actually not so important 

00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:15.100
so let's suffice to say that he loves this word dialect don't be intimidated by it is what I'm trying

00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:23.700
To say here, when you read such a thing. He

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 77% (HØY)

00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:32.300
claims and that is kind of the background for much of how you can 

00:12:32.300 --> 00:12:38.300
understand this manifesto for the study of denim that they're writing against this top-down 

00:12:38.300 --> 00:12:46.900
critique of consumption of consumerism because there emerged this critique in social science and in 

00:12:46.900 --> 00:12:50.200
popular culture of people sitting as 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:56.400
Kind of drugged in front of a TV screen and we're just like slaves in the consumer society we 

00:12:56.400 --> 00:13:03.800
walk to the shopping mall and then we put on these Levi's jeans that Levi's tells us to buy and 

00:13:03.800 --> 00:13:12.100
then our job is to critique that process of how capitalism is turning us all into consumer slaves. He's 

00:13:12.100 --> 00:13:13.800
very much against that 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:13:13.800 --> 00:13:22.000
critique he's critiquing that critique and he's doing it by doing something quite his time quite 

00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:28.300
smart and quite the kind of cutting edge in terms of ethnographic research, what he did is he went 

00:13:28.300 --> 00:13:38.600
around and followed people as they went shopping for things and went to the mall with people and saw how 

00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:44.000
Their reason and what they were doing when they were buying stuff and found that there was so much 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:50.800
more creativity and morality there were kind of a moral concerns behind many of the shopping 

00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:58.000
choices that we make. Like I want to buy this little vase for Julie because I know that 

00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:05.000
she has just broken her vase and she is gone through a difficult time or whatever there's so much 

00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:14.000
like moral concerns behind these shopping practices that kind of turns this idea on its head 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:21.150
that we are in when we're doing shopping, we're engaged in kind of advice we're doing actually 

00:14:21.150 --> 00:14:26.700
self-interested things that Adam Smith says when you scale it up it has good benefits for 

00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:32.500
everyone he says in this book that when you're shopping you're actually doing moral things when you 

00:14:32.500 --> 00:14:38.600
scale them up it has bad consequences for everyone and for the environment and the planet. That's 

00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:42.550
the kind of argument that he is very well known for.  

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:14:42.550 --> 00:14:49.200
He argues that we need to take seriously and these two now that we need to take 

00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:57.300
seriously the meanings that people involved in consumerism give to the goods themselves. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:10.500
In this paper they launched a rather ambitious project to study jeans, okay. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:15:10.700 --> 00:15:14.600
Why should anthropologists study jeans?

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:21.300
In this paper they set out to convince us and I think they do a rather good job, they convince us that 

00:15:21.300 --> 00:15:24.350
denim is actually a very interesting topic. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:15:24.350 --> 00:15:30.500
They work outwards from a few observations.

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:33.400
one 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM)

00:15:34.100 --> 00:15:38.349
Jeans is an incredibly ordinary thing 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:15:38.349 --> 00:15:47.000
it's something you just don't think of as very philosophical but actually they argue it is incredibly 

00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:54.600
profound it has some deep meaning to people, it's universal it's found almost everywhere actually I think 

00:15:54.600 --> 00:16:01.300
it is found everywhere. Yet it is intensely personal 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:16:01.500 --> 00:16:03.800
intimate 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:11.800
so I just thought I'd check this with you. I mean could any of your read this text without thinking of 

00:16:11.800 --> 00:16:16.850
yourself? how many here are wearing jeans? how many people? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:16:16.850 --> 00:16:24.800
Oh wow! so that's basically the clear majority. I think I qualify my jeans are black but still 

00:16:24.800 --> 00:16:34.900
I have jeans, a secret I always wear black jeans actually I have like eight pairs of black jeans. 

00:16:34.900 --> 00:16:42.350
It's so I don't have to choose so much when I do that, this is a digression but I have a very 

00:16:42.350 --> 00:16:47.300
personal relationship to pairs of black jeans 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:16:47.500 --> 00:16:53.400
as I'm sure you do with your own pairs of jeans and that is a point of course of what they are 

00:16:53.400 --> 00:16:55.200
talking about here. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:01.100
This is like an astonishing thing I think where 90% of you are wearing 

00:17:01.100 --> 00:17:08.400
jeans or more and if we go outside I'm thinking in 30 seconds we could count 10 people who wear 

00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:14.300
jeans in the lunch break here, so it's all over at least Blindern campus and they observe all over 

00:17:14.300 --> 00:17:15.650
the world. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:17:15.650 --> 00:17:23.000
Their argument actually concerns all of us who get up in the morning and we aren't thinking 

00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:30.949
much or perhaps think for a little bit we end up wearing jeans why is that what is it 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 70% (MEDIUM)

00:17:30.949 --> 00:17:42.600
that this textile offers all of us? what is it about jeans that makes it so popular? and I talked a 

00:17:42.600 --> 00:17:54.200
little bit in the last recording about how to read because Gergiois just said to me that it 

00:17:54.200 --> 00:18:00.700
would be good if I spoke about that a little bit. I threw it in very quickly at the end and I thought 

00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:01.250
I'd spend

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM)

00:18:01.250 --> 00:18:06.900
just five minutes on it picking it up throughout this lecture. How to read 

00:18:06.900 --> 00:18:15.700
text? again you're in the deep end of the pool here in economic anthropology and we are looking for a 

00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:22.700
way things that can help us already told you not to become human copy machines but what can I how 

00:18:22.700 --> 00:18:29.400
can I help you to actually engage with the text in a meaningful and in a not so frightening 

00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.250
way. I 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:37.000
personally have a very personal ways of taking notes I do of course take notes okay. But one of 

00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:48.500
the things I do often when I read a text is I make this little sign I draw four lines and 

00:18:48.500 --> 00:18:56.200
that is supposed to be the pattern I told you I think in the recording. Look for the pattern. What is 

00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:01.300
the pattern, what is it the thing that strikes Miller and 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:19:01.300 --> 00:19:08.100
Sophie Woodward? what is it that they're struck by. Its often so obvious that it's hard 

00:19:08.100 --> 00:19:18.000
to actually put into words, and look for that pattern and then this is another symbol I use that 

00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:23.800
is always the connection so the pattern to that they offer struck by and then look for 

00:19:23.800 --> 00:19:30.100
a connection, the connection that you can make with other texts I'm sure this is kind of obvious to you 

00:19:30.100 --> 00:19:31.199
I hope so 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:19:31.199 --> 00:19:40.500
but this is just the kind of tools I have for for engaging with the text so let's see then 

00:19:40.500 --> 00:19:46.800
what is the pattern in Woodward and Miller's text. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:19:47.900 --> 00:19:55.400
Has any of you read it yet? Who has read the Miller and Woodward text? also 

00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:58.900
very good. Does anyone want to go give it a go?

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:05.300
What is the pattern? This is a 

00:20:05.300 --> 00:20:12.000
better way to put it if Sophie Woodward and Daniel Miller they've been out in the world 

00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:17.700
and they come together they have a cup of coffee and they say jeans this is so striking let's write a 

00:20:17.700 --> 00:20:21.600
paper, what do you think that they found so striking. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.500
Yeah. *Someone answering in the crowd.*

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:20:30.300 --> 00:20:36.650
yeah definitely but even more basic than that 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:20:36.650 --> 00:20:38.900
yeah 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:41.600
yeah 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:49.100
Yeah exactly so they get to that point by just observing this actually it's kind of not fair because 

00:20:49.100 --> 00:20:56.950
we already talked about it, like jeans is everywhere and it's worn by everyone across the planet 

00:20:56.950 --> 00:21:00.650
it's so blindingly obvious. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:21:00.650 --> 00:21:08.000
We were also taught that you know fashion industry should have be kind of left 

00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:14.900
jeans on the side for years back but still jeans if you look at a pair of jeans today it's 

00:21:14.900 --> 00:21:21.700
not so very different actually it's quite the same in some senses as you wore in 

00:21:21.700 --> 00:21:23.100
the 70s 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:30.500
Levi's 501 has been around and it's going to stick around it is an incredibly 

00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:38.200
resilient piece of textile of fashion. What is it that it offers us and then how can 

00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:48.200
that ordinariness that piece of textile work, what can that tell us about globalization about economic life 

00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:49.700
about culture 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:21:49.700 --> 00:21:56.000
It's kind of too obvious to even 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.900
notice 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:06.600
so this is the pattern and they end up writing a book that you can look up if you're enthused 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:22:09.600 --> 00:22:16.400
Denim does not emerge merely as a creature of the fashion industry expressing the 

00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.550
wider interest of capitalism 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:22:18.550 --> 00:22:27.100
there is something about the specific choice of denim, it can be whatever kind of from the 

00:22:27.100 --> 00:22:31.700
from the point of view of the fashion industry why is that we end up using denim 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 77% (HØY)

00:22:31.900 --> 00:22:38.150
it's not merely the creature of the fashion industry or for the interest of capitalism 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:22:38.150 --> 00:22:44.400
and of course this is the point where you can make a connection okay. I'm taking your hand and I'm 

00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:53.300
kind of walking you very slowly through this text this is the point where I would say oh who else in 

00:22:53.300 --> 00:23:06.000
the last few weeks of my life has been going on about how economic life is more than the kind of 

00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.800
self-interested economic motivations 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:16.300
that neoliberal thinkers like Milton Friedman tell us that economic life is about. Who else has been 

00:23:16.300 --> 00:23:27.900
saying things like that well I have endlessly and of course not only that we started this course 

00:23:27.900 --> 00:23:36.900
with this orchestra metaphor right that the profit motive is perhaps is an instrument but 

00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:38.900
in a much larger orchestra 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:44.200
It could just be the little triangle it has a very clear nice sound but actually when it when you look at it as its 

00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:54.050
lived as it plays out there's so many other things reciprocity gift exchange morality culture that 

00:23:54.050 --> 00:23:59.600
you have to take into account, and so they very much belong to this project that we're building 

00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:06.600
here the symphony of economic anthropology saying that there's something beyond the profit motive 

00:24:06.600 --> 00:24:08.900
something in the way human societies 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:18.300
and systems of meaning are organised that helps to explain the economic practice. Think again back to 

00:24:18.300 --> 00:24:27.500
the E.P Thompson article right where the price of the bread is set not just on the basis of the 

00:24:27.500 --> 00:24:34.100
the man but actually people going to the Millers and the baker's with pitchforks 

00:24:34.100 --> 00:24:38.800
in their hand

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 68% (MEDIUM)

00:24:38.800 --> 00:24:47.100
And saying you give us this price and they incorporate kind of that fear and that moral outrage of 

00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:56.700
the crowd and the price is affected by those concerns, the moral economy. This is the same kind of 

00:24:56.700 --> 00:25:02.900
project there's something about denim that is interesting in itself kind of from the point of 

00:25:02.900 --> 00:25:06.800
view we talked about from the point of view of the Native here we are talking about from 

00:25:06.800 --> 00:25:08.750
the point of view of denim 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:13.450
kind of strangely, or the people who put on 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 83% (HØY)

00:25:13.450 --> 00:25:18.900
denim why is it that it's so incredibly resilient and popular 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 77% (HØY)

00:25:20.100 --> 00:25:29.100
when you're faced in this choice everyday choice of what you're going to wear why is it that 90% of 

00:25:29.100 --> 00:25:31.600
us ended up putting on jeans?

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:34.100
and not something else. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:45.100
so Sophie Woodward she went into people's houses women's houses and homes and sat down with 

00:25:45.100 --> 00:25:51.400
them and she was in the room when people would kind of woke up I don't God knows how she got there 

00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:59.800
it's impressive kind of ethnographic methodological feat there but anyway she did that and then she 

00:25:59.800 --> 00:26:03.400
started to talk to them as the as the reason that they were standing in front of the clothing rack 

00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.300
and thinking what am I going to wear what what is this 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:26:06.300 --> 00:26:11.700
kind of what I feel about this why am I putting this away and not that and then why am I ending up 

00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:20.300
with a pair of jeans in my hands. She comes to the conclusion that blue jeans provide a sense of 

00:26:20.300 --> 00:26:25.900
security of relief and I thought this is a kind of a nice formulation a relief from the 

00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:36.800
burden of mistaken choice and anxious self composition. Do any of you recognise that? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:43.900
I recognise this, even though I only have black jeans I do actually have some blue jeans also but 

00:26:43.900 --> 00:26:50.400
I'm very rarely wear them.

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:58.800
Do you recognize this in your own choices? and you guys put on jeans today is kind of a nice 

00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:06.400
safe option right and her argument is specifically also about gender as you notice. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:13.100
It's when you get this anxiety for what am I going to wear how people going to look at me we have 

00:27:13.100 --> 00:27:21.900
this refuge this category that is kind of enough that is the jeans. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:27:22.900 --> 00:27:30.750
They don't they don't stop at that, that is kind of the observation that she makes from 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:35.900
from her ethnographic 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:45.100
entry into the people's rooms clothing where they make the clothing choices, but they make more kind 

00:27:45.100 --> 00:27:55.700
of Manifesto type of argument based on three observations or three claims. 

00:27:55.700 --> 00:28:01.450
There are three unique properties to denim it is 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:28:01.450 --> 00:28:09.300
the most ubiquitous textile ubiquitous in Norwegian 'allstedsværende'or something like 

00:28:09.300 --> 00:28:20.500
that. Now you learn a new word or maybe not it is a truly global textile, and it's 

00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:24.350
present all around, it's the most 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 84% (HØY)

00:28:24.350 --> 00:28:29.400
Global textile I think that's correct.  

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:36.800
I can't think of anything that's kind of up there and it's intensely personal and this is kind of 

00:28:36.800 --> 00:28:44.800
interesting because it's the only it's also something I hadn't thought about before that is the only 

00:28:44.800 --> 00:28:53.600
textile maybe you correct me if I'm wrong but it's the only textile on that you can tear and still wear 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:28:53.600 --> 00:28:57.600
with kind of with that being the point 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:05.100
no you can't really tear a shirt that's not made of textile, or a pair of pants that's not made 

00:29:05.100 --> 00:29:12.500
Of textile it doesn't make so much sense. With the jeans it's the point often to have 

00:29:12.500 --> 00:29:21.000
them be worn look worn because it's you have an intensely personal relationship to this textile 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 89% (HØY)

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:30.100
it kind of takes shape along your body and the things you do if you are a lot on your knees or if you 

00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:35.400
have snus or whatever and you have that in your pockets 

00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:44.400
The jeans are torn so you'll see a whole resembling the snus. I bike a lot so I always have like very awkward opening like I 

00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:52.250
have to stitch them at the crotch we have an intensely personal relationship to 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:58.950
our jeans and that's kind of the point that is part of the appeal that's the one the second unique 

00:29:58.950 --> 00:30:00.449
property 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:30:00.449 --> 00:30:11.700
again I think I put yes connection ding ding ding. These are commodities right 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:30:12.100 --> 00:30:15.500
they can of course also be gifts 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 71% (MEDIUM)

00:30:17.100 --> 00:30:19.200
but 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:25.900
what do we know about Commodities they're supposed to be impersonal interchangeable but then people 

00:30:25.900 --> 00:30:33.250
take these things and buy them and then they kind of personalise them and we weave ourselves into them 

00:30:33.250 --> 00:30:41.700
and you could think about how this relates to the things we talked about earlier about how the 

00:30:41.700 --> 00:30:48.500
economy can be seen as a process of disembedding and then re-embedding right think about that. 

00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:49.550
I don't know if you've 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:30:49.550 --> 00:30:56.400
Read Bridget Meyer's text on prayer I think it was Ghana how people pray to purify items and 

00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:01.700
make a kind of culture and personalise them this is kind of similar kind of process it could be 

00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:09.200
an interesting comparison, could be. The way in which denim becomes intensely personal and part 

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:15.600
of our everyday lives through our bodies could be seen as a process of certain kind of re-embedding 

00:31:15.600 --> 00:31:19.550
maybe these are the kinds of just like that type of thinking is 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:31:19.550 --> 00:31:25.400
what I encourage like I wonder if that kind of fits here or what happens if we think think this 

00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:29.300
through let me push that argument a little bit further 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:31:29.800 --> 00:31:38.800
thirdly and we talked about this and it's a secure base especially for most women's anxious 

00:31:38.800 --> 00:31:43.300
relationships to their wardrobe and a common solution to the task of getting dressed on a daily 

00:31:43.300 --> 00:31:52.100
basis in other words jeans are often at the center of our wardrobes regardless of context. They form 

00:31:52.100 --> 00:31:58.000
a security at least for British women women and they kind of want to test this assertion this claim 

00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.350
with this new 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 78% (HØY)

00:31:59.350 --> 00:32:02.750
Mega project of comparative ethnography 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:32:02.750 --> 00:32:16.750
so this is a Manifesto that has a very strong belief in comparative ethnography 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:32:16.750 --> 00:32:23.300
as we talked about in the beginning it kind of works with this idea that consumers we also have some 

00:32:23.300 --> 00:32:32.400
kind of agency we contribute the shaping the fashion industry fashion is not just shaping us. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:32:34.700 --> 00:32:37.300


NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 88% (HØY)

00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:44.700
This is their studies of material culture how people make 

00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:50.650
meaning within objects. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:58.400
alright let's talk a little bit about the second object of the second kind of blindingly obvious 

00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:07.400
object before we take a break and see what we can learn from coffee I think we already learned a bit 

00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:14.300
about coffee you know or from coffee. I watch the some clips about coffee history and so on before 

00:33:14.300 --> 00:33:21.500
when I read this text but I learned more from 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:31.200
Roseberry than anything else concerning coffee it's a quite a interesting text I think but 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:33:31.800 --> 00:33:40.550
It keeps popping up in this course like this thing with Vito Corleone when Bueno Sera 

00:33:40.550 --> 00:33:50.050
Wants Vito Corleone to kill or harm some people who've done his 

00:33:50.050 --> 00:33:57.800
daughters of Injustice and oneself as well why didn't you ever invite my wife for a bit cup of 

00:33:57.800 --> 00:34:02.550
coffee and I'm glad I didn't try that 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:34:02.550 --> 00:34:12.850
even more. I have many italian friends they would decapitate me, but coffee can mean incredibly 

00:34:12.850 --> 00:34:19.699
powerful things and what can we learn from coffee this time around it can be a gift it can be a 

00:34:19.699 --> 00:34:22.100
commodity we've seen this 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:34:22.600 --> 00:34:29.800
but what Roseberry does is he kind of takes us back to this other to the other side I think you know 

00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:38.600
I hope as students of social science that there is this thing like in social science is the debate 

00:34:38.600 --> 00:34:45.500
about structure or agency I think this is like

00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:53.000
basic course stuff that you've had and so what Roseberry does I think it's move 

00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:53.250
a little 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:34:53.250 --> 00:35:00.300
Bit from that agency spectrum end of the spectrum to the structure and the Spectrum by saying 

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:08.500
what happens when we focus on the structural aspects to understand the rise of coffee and the 

00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:17.600
re-imagination of plants, but it's starting point is of course quite similar to Miller and Woodward 

00:35:17.600 --> 00:35:23.250
okay there's something blindingly obvious here and it's the second most popular beverage 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:35:23.250 --> 00:35:24.550
in the world. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:35:24.550 --> 00:35:28.050
Can anyone think what's the most popular? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:35:28.050 --> 00:35:33.100
Water. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:46.200
Just plain water, but I think tea must be third. Because when I heard 

00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:51.450
that I immediately had to go look what is the most popular then and it was just water, a bit boring 

00:35:51.450 --> 00:35:59.900
but obviously yeah so we're dealing also seemingly with the individual choices at the end of the 

00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:02.899
kind of a commodity chain and this is where 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:36:02.899 --> 00:36:10.600
we could say the consumption happens the flip side of production is then consumption 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:18.000
and this by the way is the distinction kind of dividing the world into two that David Graeber is not 

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:30.600
very happy about but let's accept it for now and consider kind of coffee then on its own terms it's 

00:36:30.600 --> 00:36:36.900
like jeans it is widespread it's ubiquitous 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:39.150
it's obvious 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:46.050
and I think when we take a break now it can even be the case that

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 87% (HØY)

00:36:46.050 --> 00:36:50.900
When this class is over we all go and get ourselves a cup of 

00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:58.800
coffee and you choose your favourite cup right with whatever maybe just have ordinary coffee but even 

00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.350
then you get a choice 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:37:00.350 --> 00:37:08.900
what do you like today Jamaican Java or the Congolese whatever the one is fruity in the other is 

00:37:08.900 --> 00:37:17.100
nutty and you're standing there like what I don't know I didn't really have a preference so you're 

00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:24.400
presented with this choice or you choose whatever your soy milk double latte or whatever 

00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:30.850
preference you like and you have a preference but nonetheless the point 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 65% (MEDIUM)

00:37:30.850 --> 00:37:40.800
of Roseberry is to say that this choice is conditioned by something that you did not influence 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 79% (HØY)

00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:49.600
and Roseberry is interested in this question who is who are 

00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:53.300
The people who shape our tastes when it comes to coffee 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 73% (MEDIUM)

00:37:54.100 --> 00:37:59.050
and it's not you he said, it's a not you alone. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 85% (HØY)

00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:04.300
Let's look at the pattern of this text. 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:13.300
I want you to kind of do this little thought exercise when you when you encounter a text what is the 

00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:19.000
pattern at the heart of Roseberry's text let's see here it is 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.300


NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 76% (HØY)

00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:30.000
I'm just going to read its to give you a little bit of a tip it's often in the very first 

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:36.050
sentence of the first paragraph or at least the first page so where does this text start? 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 86% (HØY)

00:38:36.050 --> 00:38:45.100
Let us begin at a gourmet food emporium at Manhattan's Upper West Side okay so 

00:38:45.100 --> 00:38:46.650
He takes us here 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:38:46.650 --> 00:38:54.899
this is something that struck him okay he steps onto the stage telling you hey guys there's this thing

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 81% (HØY)

00:38:54.899 --> 00:38:58.250
and then that's the pattern and the thing 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:38:58.250 --> 00:39:07.600
is that there's so much coffee specialization so much coffee variety what's the deal with that is 

00:39:07.600 --> 00:39:10.800
kind of what he's asking here 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:21.300
all this coffee variation just across the street from him and his place 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 80% (HØY)

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:29.750
how did that come to be and it's also something that we also I think can remember if you're not 

00:39:29.750 --> 00:39:34.800
kind of ten years old and you're not then you can remember a time when there was less 

00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:41.100
specializations less I think not too long ago I think I can even remember when I was a student or 

00:39:41.100 --> 00:39:47.700
maybe just five years ago when you walked up to Godt Brød or whatever coffee shop you go to you 

00:39:47.700 --> 00:39:51.200
didn't get the choice maybe go through those and do that actually but the Espresso House and a few others

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:57.800
gives you that choice did you like the Congolese or the Nicaraguan before it wasn't like that 

00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:05.400
just like I want a coffee and then you get a coffee so what is the thing with all this Choice apparent

00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:09.150
choice where does that come from that is the pattern 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:18.200
what is the deal with all this specialization and this growth of gourmet coffee 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:25.500
and this is of course a very old kind of 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 82% (HØY)

00:40:25.500 --> 00:40:35.500
thing for for anthropology and sociology to try to understand how people's taste is shaped it's 

00:40:35.500 --> 00:40:42.950
something that Pierre Bourdieu did very famously in his book distinction it's like very kind of 

00:40:42.950 --> 00:40:50.800
Sociology 101 you could say but Roseberry is a bit different he takes deeply historical approach so 

00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.450
whereas Sophie Woodward it standing in the bedroom of some woman who's 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 90% (HØY)

00:40:55.450 --> 00:41:01.500
agonizing over what to wear and looking at her and asking her and engaging with her

00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:08.200
Roseberry is working historically and he's taking a deeply historical approach kind of in line 

00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:15.500
with Sydney Mintz I don't know if you ever come across that guy but he did this book called 

00:41:15.500 --> 00:41:23.700
sweetness and power which is very much in this tradition, Roseberry 

00:41:23.700 --> 00:41:25.950
is following this tradition  

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)

00:41:25.950 --> 00:41:31.900
in the footsteps of Sidney Mintz and trying to do a little bit of the same thing for coffee as than Mintz

00:41:31.900 --> 00:41:40.700
did for sugar and what that thing is maybe we'll just leave that for 

NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (HØY)

00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:47.750
for the break let's have 15 minutes break this is so cool this is old-school now 15 minutes break 

00:41:47.750 --> 00:41:52.400
you can come down to me we can go out and have a coffee okay see you in 15 minutes 