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Can you see the screen? Perfect. Okay, so, welcome everybody. I'm very happy to be here in person. 

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And first of all, I would like to thank you all for accepting this challenge, which is a strange new 

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form of making a course. The problems of being half of the time from zoom and half of the time in 

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presence. 

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So we are definitely kind of pioneers in these difficult times. I hope you 

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you started to familiarize yourself with the new course structure and I hope you had also some fun in doing 

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like this. Let me just explain you how it's going to work. Okay, you had the material beforehand, 

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you had some tasks to do and today in the lecture we will have two different 

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moments: The first 45 minutes, I will, first of all, try to answer your questions and make little 

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bit of reflections together about the topic of the day. While in the second half of the lecture, 

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we will try to do some hands-on activity.

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Possibly working in small groups, five or six people in each group depending on how many 

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people are here and in classroom and zoom. Today, the activity will be very smooth and 

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easy for starting lecture. In the next lectures, we will have some more active stuff to do.

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Okay, but the idea is that 

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-especially when it comes to qualitative methods, that are not 

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really standardized and in which the researcher is in an important part of the method itself-, the idea 

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is that you try to do things. I try to structure these activity starting from a very simple 

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observation. The fact that, for instance, sometimes you arrive to the master thesis  

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without having done one single interview, real interview. 

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And then you have to do your master thesis and maybe you have to interview people and you never 

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practiced it. This happens everywhere, every University I have been working. 

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So, the idea is that we start with familiarizing ourselfes with the methods that maybe you want to use 

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Okay, so every lecture will be split into halfs. 

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If you don't have any questions about this, everything is clear, I move on. I hope you could follow the 

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material online. I had to play a little bit with canvas and of course, I will try to improve in the 

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next lectures. But basically the idea is very simple that you click next and you find what you have 

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to do. Okay, but I will also try to make some other 

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visualization available. So today, I hope you enjoyed reading the first chapter of the handbook.

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I choose this book, which is not really new as you can see, 

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but the way it presents the qualitative methods is very challenging 

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and interesting. So the book and the debate it presents is still very active. 

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So what I try to do is, I collected your questions and reflections from 

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the forum, by the way, please try not to post on the morning of the lecture because I 

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don't have time to read the answer. So try not to do that. Post it at least one day before and I will try to collect 

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and grouping your questions 

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to identify the main points. Of course I can probably never answer all the questions 

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here. So the idea is that the Forum discussions go on along the course, as maybe you 

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have new ideas, new thoughts. I can provide some materials, sometimes for to meet your curiosity. 

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Okay, so I group questions

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in these topics because also we have a limited time to do this. So I will try to go 

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through my reflections or thoughts about what you asked and hope to find some answers. Of course, 

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this is still interactive. So if you have some some other thoughts while I'm talking, please just 

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jump in, okay?

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I know it's difficult to do interactive stuff in these settings. Nevertheless, let's try. 

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So the first question, which is something I was expecting... That's a 

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very important question: ''The difference between methodology and methods''. In some books probably, 

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you will find no difference. Methodology are is methods. This is why in 

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social sciences, 

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you basically have two approaches. One is the idea that methodologies are just standard procedures 

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you apply to a phenomenon, so it's a toolbox. If you need a screwdriver, you use a test. If you need 

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a hammer, you use an EEG and so on. According to 

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the experimental design that you have. 

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While another view is a bit more complex and saying that methods themself are just are of course 

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tools, but a tool itself is useless if you don't know how to use it and if you don't have an 

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idea of why are you using it. So I would say that 

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the difference is that, of course, methods are techniques. We apply methods to solve 

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problems. So methods are not only something you will be using in research or in science, when we need 

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to solve a problem, like ''how do I get to university from home by tram?'' I will use a 

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method. It can be a very empirical and 

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subjective method. Like ''Oh today is sunny, so I will not take the tram and I will walk, 

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because I like to work on sun.'' that's completely subjective. Or it can be a very objective method, 

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like using Google Maps, that calculates perfectly the time and distance, you have to walk or to 

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go by public transportation and provides 

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two different alternatives you can choose from. But our methods are for to solve the problem. So the 

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difference is that the focus is no longer on the method we use, 

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but on the problem. So here we start to see that there is no method in itself, which is 

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independent from the problem we want to solve. Now the question I would like you to think about 

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in our field is:

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What is the problem? What is the phenomenon 

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we are interested in? I would say, is human life, human Experience, human suffering, human relating 

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to other humans, human learning. And again, 

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the question is, how do we see these problems? So when you see that, we have method, we 

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have problems but we have also, our ideas about what is human learning, what is human suffering, 

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what is inclusion. So you see, do you remember the methodological cycle? You see how methods are 

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always related to the phenomenon. Always related to the assumption that we have.  

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So the idea is that methods are tools to solve problems, but they are 

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meaningless unless we have a complete idea of how we want to produce knowledge and generalizable 

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knowledge. So we try to use some ways, common ways

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to produce generalizable knowledge about something, which is I think by definition fairly unique. 

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So human Experience is unique. My experience is never like exactly like your experience. And my 

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experience when I was 10 years old is never the same of my experience when I was 11, 12, my 

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first school day... 

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My first school day is special because it's my first. The second one, by definition will be not 

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like the first school day. So the question I would like to reflect upon is how we can have methods 

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to understand fairly changing unique, always developing form of human experience. That's the real 

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question. Okay, so, 

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these kind of questions are part of methodology and it makes no sense just to take one method 

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if you don't link it to these other questions. So that would be my take on the different 

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take on methodology and methods. If you want a definition, the methodology is the system, the 

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Ensemble of elements through which we produce generalizable knowledge. Methods are a part of this 

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methodology. 

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Theories are another part. If you don't use them together 

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İt makes no sense to use a method itself. Okay, that was my first answer. Any question, comments -also 

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from home- ? You can write it from chat. Okay, we have a lot to discuss, 

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so moving on. Other question: positivism. 

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We probably had someone else talking about this.

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So I just want to to stress a couple of points. Okay, the idea of 

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positivistic science, is the idea that there is only one reality one truth, and if we use the right way,


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We can inductively discover this truth. So you see how there are a lot of simple 

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definitions. But if we just start asking ourselves, what is truth? 

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Well, we are really entering a very difficult field. So the idea of positivism, is the idea that we can 

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build any hypothesis empirically, verify this hypothesis and especially predict and control the 

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reality, if our hypothesis is correct. 

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Now again, what is the difference? What is the question in social sciences? Okay, if you take a stone 

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and you analyze the stone 

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somehow chemically, 

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the stone cannot lie. 

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We can make a wrong measuring but the stone cannot decide to lie to us. 

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Human beings lie, 

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human beings have will, human beings may think ''why she's asking me this? ''. So again, human life 

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and human experience is a fairly special object of study. So we cannot simply take the positivistic 

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view which is of course, as being generated in the field of natural sciences 

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translated into social sciences. 

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But beside that, there is also another very important point and today we are discovering  

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the terrible limitation of this point. Even a stone is not passive. 

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For instance, positivism was built on the idea that there was a subject and object relationship. So 

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human beings are the subject of knowledge. They simply relate to an object, which is passive like a 

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stone or like a river or like a forest. 

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And we can know, control and dominate

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this object and predict the future behavior of this object if we use the right method. 

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Today, we know that we cannot even control or predict anything in nature. Why? Because first 

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of all, we discovered that we are part of this nature. So, the subject object relationship 

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is not active-passive. We are part of what we are studying and this is even more true 

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when it comes to human beings. 

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As human beings, we are part of relationship with other human beings and even if you are doing 

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an FMRI to a person, that's a relationship. That's not a active subject and passive object 

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situation. So this fundamentalshift in the way we relate subject 

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and object from knowledge makes positivistic approach is

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completely inconsistent. But as we will see, it is an ideological problem. Because  

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the idea of positivism lays on, I don't want you to do the history of prisons now, but it lays 

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on a very specific word view. 

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So, the idea that there is a subject which is active, intrapreneurial, able to control and to 

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predict, so it has power. And there is an object, which is powerless. When it comes to social 

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sciences, this is called extractivism. So the idea that, I as a researcher, for examle go

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to a school, I just go there and extract ''mine''. Have you ever heard the expression 

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''data mining'' ? That's exactly the metaphor, that we go there and pick the knowledge we need. 

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and we come back home. 

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As we will se, this is a criticism, which is really keen to the colonizing critisizm. 

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So, what did the colonizer country do? They just went there and pick the resources of the 

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colonized countries and left the colonized countries in problems. So the idea, the 

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extractivistic approach is that, the researcher is just someone who is exploiting his 

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participants. And when it comes to marginal or vulnerable subjects, this is even more problematic. 

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Because if, if you as a researcher, come to me, I am privileged, university professor of a rich 

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country. So I have some resources to oppose or to contrast your attempt 

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to colonize my knowledge or to extract my knowledge. But imagine a subject which has not 

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such a power, is in a vulnerable condition or is in a very unique condition of poverty, or doesn't have 

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enough cultural resources to understand what I'm trying to do. So that will be 

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fairly unethical relationship.

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So you see, the idea of positivism is based on a subject-object 

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relationship, which is today very very problematic.  

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Okay, let's move on. 

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Okay, another question, very interesting question, which is ''strong objectivity''. Of course, 

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the the idea of strong objectivity sounds kind of strange one, because... 

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Sandra Harding has created, do you know what .... (unheard) is? It's when you 

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put together two terms that are that are apparently opposite like warm-cold. So she says, somehow 

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that strong objectivity is when you really consider subjectivities. 

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And again, it goes back to the idea of truth. Do we really have one single truth? Or truth and 

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knowledge depends on the perspective of the subject? So for instance, 

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I can see your faces but who is sitting up there? 

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I can see only your notepads.

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Now, are we talking about the same reality or not? 

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This different perspective is giving us different views, so we miss consider the perspective of 

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who's sitting there and say, only my perspective is the right one. 

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Because I am in the position of a professor, or we shall say instead maybe I see things 

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in a certain way. She sees things in a different way. So maybe if we combine our 

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perspectives, we can come to a better understanding of the phenomenon, because we take it from 

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different perspectives. 

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The first thing you learn when you start University is that there are qualitative and 

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quantitative methods. 

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And like Star Wars, the dark side and the bright side, and the force. So, quantitative methods are 

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''the force''. Qualitative methods are the dark side, and you have to choose from the very beginning. And 

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actually, it is also the way researchers see themselves. So people like me are the one who 

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joined the dark side. What instead 

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if we are not talking about opposite 

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ways but just complementary ways, so we are looking to a phenomenon from different perspectives. 

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And if we put them together, if we put them in dialogue, maybe we can get a better understanding of 

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the phenomenon. So, and this is actually, this implies a big shift, because as I said in the 

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positivistic perspective, there is one subject who is the one who knows, and has power and is 

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active, and there is the object who is passive. 

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Here, we are kind of reversing the perspective and say both are the subject and object of 

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knowledge at the same time.

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When you interview someone, you are being interviewed. 

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When you observe someone, you are being observed in return. The difference is that there is some 

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kind of social structure that gives you more power than the other one. So the observation of 

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the participant has less voice or less power than yours but not because of the knowledge process in 

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itself, but because of the social status that you have. 

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So hermenuetics considers this different standpoints. Yes, and no. 

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It depends on how you understand hermeneutics. 

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So, hermeneutical process can be a very individual process. 

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So for instance, I take your diary and I start reading it and I proceeded in 

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my interpretation, that's one way. But there is also a dialogical are hermeneutical process. So I 

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constantly go back to you and say, ''did I understand correctly? '' Is this exactly what you meant? '' And then 

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the other person says, ''no, not exactly. 

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I meant this, this and this... '' and while telling you she's also reflecting and understanding better, 

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improving our own interpretation. And I can reply. So that's interpretation, that's 

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how I interpret your interpretation. So it becomes kind of a spiral, dialogical spiral of 

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interpretations, in which you consider. 

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all the perspectives and all the viewpoints. This is when we have two people, imagine when 

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you have more people and more perspectives. So you can see how this process can become very, very 

00:25:56.100 --> 00:26:04.800
complex. In this case they hermeneutical process is trying to achieve a form of 

00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:06.650
strong objectivity. 

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Confidence: 77% (HIGH)

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This is complex because it's a way of thinking, for instance if I 

00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:22.900
want to study children with some kind of a learning problem, 

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Confidence: 83% (HIGH)

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:29.100
I as a researcher go to school and interview and make a kind of testing to these 

00:26:29.100 --> 00:26:30.250
children. 

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Confidence: 84% (HIGH)

00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:38.200
And then I do my hypothesis and do my analysis and I write something down. That's the extractivist 

00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:43.600
approach. You go there, you pick your data, come back home and do something with the data, build 

00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:45.550
something with the data. 

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Confidence: 85% (HIGH)

00:26:45.550 --> 00:26:55.200
A different way of thinking is, ''Who is really involved in this? Who are the stakeholders? Who 

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.250
are the people that knows something? ''

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Confidence: 86% (HIGH)

00:26:58.250 --> 00:27:01.100
Clearly the children.  

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Confidence: 84% (HIGH)

00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:11.650
Actually, the researcher is the ignorant person, because we want to know something that we don't know 

00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:19.100
yet, our participants know something that we don't know. So actually the person who has the 

00:27:19.100 --> 00:27:23.200
knowledge is the participant, is not the researcher 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:27:24.600 --> 00:27:38.300
in he beginning. So the strong objectivity is related to the idea of always considering all the 

00:27:38.300 --> 00:27:43.150
people involved, all the the interests 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:51.900
involved and how we can truly give voice and truly involve the participants. The idea is that we don't 

00:27:51.900 --> 00:28:00.100
do research on people, we do research with people. We produce knowledge together. 

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Confidence: 80% (HIGH)

00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:12.400
So, that's a very interesting question and I tried to make it even a bit more complicated. 

NOTE
Confidence: 78% (HIGH)

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:23.400
Okay, there is a wonderful sociologist and philosopher, from Brazil, Rio de Janeiro.

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:35.900
He is called de Souza Santos. He is writing a lot of fascinating books about  

00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:42.900
epistemological diversity. So what is the idea? The point is 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:52.300
not that research is dominated by males. If you remember in the chapter, it mentions of 

00:28:52.300 --> 00:28:55.400
liberal feminism. 

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Confidence: 84% (HIGH)

00:28:55.800 --> 00:29:03.400
Again, the idea of liberal feminism is to solve the problem of gender inequality, you just need 

00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:15.949
to hire more women basically, or to have kind of 50/50 distribution. The point is, problem is not just  

00:29:15.949 --> 00:29:24.400
because of gender differences, but it's because there is a way

00:29:25.250 --> 00:29:36.950
way of thinking, which makes impossible or not acceptable 

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Confidence: 82% (HIGH)

00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:47.500
to have different perspectives. Let's say, in the countries 

00:29:47.500 --> 00:29:56.900
of global North... I will use this term ''Global North'' and ''Global South'', because I don't want you to 

00:29:56.900 --> 00:30:00.900
use the term ''developing countries'' ever. 

00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:15.200
Because making distinction of developed and developing countries, it's 

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:23.900
exactly a way of naturalizing that subject-object relationship. So there are people who are already 

00:30:23.900 --> 00:30:25.300
developed, 

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Confidence: 77% (HIGH)

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they already are at the top and there are other people who are struggling to develop like us. So 

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:41.300
don't never use this. I usually use the term ''Global South'' and ''Global North'', because 

00:30:41.300 --> 00:30:49.900
there is a kind of partial geographical overlapping between. For instance inequalities, economic 

00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:51.850
inequalities and 

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Confidence: 83% (HIGH)

00:30:51.850 --> 00:30:59.250
geographical distribution, of course because the north of Europe and North America are traditionally 

00:30:59.250 --> 00:31:06.100
the colonizing countries. So when I refer to Global North and Global South, this is why. So the 

00:31:06.100 --> 00:31:17.000
idea is that the Global North has a system of knowledge that systematically underestimate 

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Confidence: 79% (HIGH)

00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:25.400
different, diverse forms of knowledge. So how does it look, this system of knowledge that 

00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:32.500
creates oppresion? It's, of course, based on patriarchy. So, here you have to gender power 

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:39.750
differences. So by definition, male is power and female is passive. 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:50.800
And this is regardless of if you are a man, or a woman, or whatever gender you are,  

00:31:50.800 --> 00:32:05.400
is because we implicitly attribute power to kind of male looking teachers. The second is, of 

00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.699
course, colonialism. Again, is based on the idea that there are natural 

NOTE
Confidence: 70% (MEDIUM)

00:32:09.699 --> 00:32:12.300
differences of power. 

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Confidence: 87% (HIGH)

00:32:12.300 --> 00:32:24.200
So, some races or some ethnicities, or some cultures are inferior to others. And the third one is 

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:32.400
capitalism, which again, is based on the naturalization of power differences. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:42.850
For instance, who is better in competition is also better as a human being. 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:32:42.850 --> 00:32:54.350
So all these forms when combined together, they produce a lot of problems in research. Why? Because, 

00:32:54.350 --> 00:33:05.500
for instance, they imply that there are some people who know better than others. 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:16.300
For instance, let me give you an example in Brazil. In Brazil, there are 

00:33:16.300 --> 00:33:25.050
important indigenous communities. Imagine that you have one University, 

NOTE
Confidence: 83% (HIGH)

00:33:25.050 --> 00:33:32.199
studying the Amazon forest, and you have some indigenous communities 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:33:32.199 --> 00:33:43.800
that live in the Amazon forest since for thousands of years. Who knows better the amazon forest? 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:33:47.300 --> 00:33:50.650
They know in different ways. 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:59.100
Nevertheless, when you have to make some political decision about what to do with the 

00:33:59.100 --> 00:34:04.600
Amazon forest, you will not listen to the indigenous communities, the government will listen to the 

00:34:04.600 --> 00:34:06.300
university. 

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Confidence: 86% (HIGH)

00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:16.900
So this is a naturalization of, what is a good knowledge and what is a bad knowledge? 

NOTE
Confidence: 87% (HIGH)

00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:32.000
I'm pretty sure that you have heard people saying men are better in math 

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:40.500
and science, while women are more skilled in social relationship and empathy, right? 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:34:42.699 --> 00:34:52.199
And in our society, what's more important? What's more valued, mathematics, or social 

00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.850
caring and listening others? 

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Confidence: 87% (HIGH)

00:34:54.850 --> 00:35:02.700
What is more scientific? Capitalism is about numbers and figures, it's not about social relationships. 

00:35:02.700 --> 00:35:10.800
So you see how this is another naturalization of an asymmetry. And we don't really pay 

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:20.100
attention to all these things. Have you ever watched a Tv series called ''The Chair'' ? 

00:35:20.100 --> 00:35:25.100
Maybe this is kind of like advertising and I should not do it 

NOTE
Confidence: 70% (MEDIUM)

00:35:25.100 --> 00:35:30.000
but it's very interesting. There is a Netflix series called ''The Chair'' 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:39.150
Watch it. It tells you exactly what are we doing in university, it's really wonderful. 

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Confidence: 80% (HIGH)

00:35:42.600 --> 00:35:50.800
It's a very short series, six episodes and episodes are 30 minutes long.  

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.600
The figurative university is located in America. 

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Confidence: 89% (HIGH)

00:35:55.600 --> 00:36:06.649
The series is talking exactly about all this stuff. So, okay...  

00:36:06.649 --> 00:36:12.900
The last point I want to make is very important. Is that, 

00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:20.000
as we say, the naturalization of gender differences, inequalities, naturalization of inequalities 

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:25.800
between cultures, they support each other. The third point 

NOTE
Confidence: 90% (HIGH)

00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:34.900
critical point is capitalism. Capitalism is based on the idea of economic efficacy or 

00:36:34.900 --> 00:36:36.600
efficiency. 

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Confidence: 89% (HIGH)

00:36:36.600 --> 00:36:45.200
And what is the method of economic efficiency? It is standardization. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:36:46.900 --> 00:36:56.800
The Nordic countries invented containers. Lego box, lego bricks. 

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Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:06.100
What is containers? Containers are an extremely efficient form of standardization

NOTE
Confidence: 90% (HIGH)

00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:16.750
Capitalism works toward he reduction of differences the reduction of diversity. Because diversity 

00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:19.750
is not economically efficient. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:37:19.750 --> 00:37:28.750
To be economically, efficient according to capitalism, agriculture must be standardized. 

NOTE
Confidence: 77% (HIGH)

00:37:28.750 --> 00:37:37.649
So, we will have only one kind of apple, which is very efficient to be produced, one kind of 

00:37:37.649 --> 00:37:46.900
ananas, one kind of salad. Because you can produce it on a large scale with the same seed, 

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:51.200
same procedure, same machines. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:37:51.200 --> 00:37:56.399
But capitalism is also reducing anthropo diversity. 

NOTE
Confidence: 81% (HIGH)

00:37:56.399 --> 00:38:05.600
We all learn the same stuff, in same standartized way, with the same assessments. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:13.600
This is actually not a completely deliberate choice, because this is the logic of 

00:38:13.600 --> 00:38:20.250
capitalism. Reducing diversity and having standardization to make it more efficient. 

NOTE
Confidence: 84% (HIGH)

00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:27.800
So, if you combine all these elements together, you have exactly the problem of killing diversity. 

00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:40.500
We are killing diversity, at the level of nature, at the level of human customs, also at the level of our 

00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:42.500
psychological life. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:47.750
The multiplication of pathologies, 

NOTE
Confidence: 89% (HIGH)

00:38:47.750 --> 00:38:53.600
the growing volume of the DSM 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:05.600
is actually telling us that we have a problem with diversity. We are moving diversity  

00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:11.050
the side of pathology. Diversity is a pathologhy for capitalism. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:39:11.050 --> 00:39:15.850
But we know that is exactly the opposite, diversity is life. 

NOTE
Confidence: 90% (HIGH)

00:39:15.850 --> 00:39:27.300
Natural life tends to diversification. So, if we kill diversity, we kill life itself. Okay, let us 

00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:37.300
continue with ''objectivity''. Actually, this is related to what I was talking about. Can you 

00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:39.500
measure objectivity? 

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Confidence: 89% (HIGH)

00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:48.200
Again, if the idea of objectivity is based on the subject-object relationship that we have in 

00:39:48.200 --> 00:39:51.000
positivism, of course you can. 

NOTE
Confidence: 77% (HIGH)

00:39:51.700 --> 00:40:02.000
If instead, we problematize this, then we have a lot of stuff to think about. For 

00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:08.600
instance, how do you consider objectivity? It has three 

00:40:08.600 --> 00:40:17.800
dimensions, you probably already had a lecture in this; reliability, validity and bias.  

00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.650
Okay, reliability;

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:26.300
If your measurement is constant over trials,  

NOTE
Confidence: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:40:26.600 --> 00:40:37.300
apparently is correct. But if I assume that human experience is never constant, 

NOTE
Confidence: 90% (HIGH)

00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:48.950
we have a problem here. Because if my test is always getting the same result while I am changing... 

NOTE
Confidence: 81% (HIGH)

00:40:48.950 --> 00:40:56.000
Well, the test may be reliable for something but not for detecting my experience. It should be 

00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:57.800
different. 

NOTE
Confidence: 81% (HIGH)

00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:08.200
Validity; For this, I have the example 

00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:14.000
of the intelligence. What is the definition of intelligence? 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:20.300
Basically it's what is measured by an intelligence test. 

NOTE
Confidence: 83% (HIGH)

00:41:20.500 --> 00:41:25.200
We don't have one single definition of intelligence, 

NOTE
Confidence: 87% (HIGH)

00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:32.900
but the common agreement is that if you use an intelligence test, then you are measuring 

00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:43.000
intelligence. Seems completely logical, it's truism. Again, are we sure that when 

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:51.100
we are using any method, the method is not actually producing what is meant to produce, rather 

00:41:51.100 --> 00:41:55.700
than capture the actual human experience? Well, when was the last 

NOTE
Confidence: 73% (MEDIUM)

00:41:55.700 --> 00:42:06.150
time you had a pen and paper test? Did you ever had one?  

00:42:06.150 --> 00:42:15.200
Now just imagine, it was really a boring test. It's asking questions like: 

00:42:15.200 --> 00:42:20.700
How many times per week do you feel like blah, blah, blah? And there are 100 

00:42:20.700 --> 00:42:25.649
questions like this. Then you start thinking ''Oh, what the hell is this? 

NOTE
Confidence: 86% (HIGH)

00:42:25.649 --> 00:42:31.750
I just want to go out, I don't want to answer this test. '' But while thinking this, you're 

00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:36.600
continuing to answer. Okay?

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:41.700
So now, what is the test actually capturing? 

NOTE
Confidence: 81% (HIGH)

00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:46.700
Of course not your real experience in that moment. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:56.900
So the test is meant to capture what is meant to capture regardless of what you are experiencing 

00:42:56.900 --> 00:43:11.600
in the moment. So the third aspect is of course, is accurateness or bias. As there was another 

00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:20.100
question about bias, I will jump to that. We avoid biases. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:43:24.500 --> 00:43:31.300
My counter question is, why should we avoid biases? 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:40.800
How can we turn biases into a source of new knowledge? 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:47.900
Do you remember the are hermanuetic approach? I constantly confront my interpretation to your 

00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:52.750
interpretation. So I acknowledge my biases to you. 

NOTE
Confidence: 80% (HIGH)

00:43:54.850 --> 00:43:58.700
And through this acknowledge, 

NOTE
Confidence: 80% (HIGH)

00:43:58.700 --> 00:44:05.200
I somehow gain more knowledge also about my biases. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:44:05.500 --> 00:44:11.450
It sounds strange because this criteria 

NOTE
Confidence: 88% (HIGH)

00:44:11.450 --> 00:44:16.100
is meant for material instruments. 

NOTE
Confidence: 76% (HIGH)

00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:22.700
So these criteria are meant for objects, not for people. 

NOTE
Confidence: 82% (HIGH)

00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:34.900
So, of course, if a thermometer is not reliable, it's useless. Of course. 

NOTE
Confidence: 82% (HIGH)

00:44:35.600 --> 00:44:43.700
But that's a tool, that's an object, it's not a person. While qualitative research is about people, is 

00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:58.600
about persons. So when it comes to using our biases, and of course, the other biases, we assume 

00:44:58.600 --> 00:45:00.500
that we are biased. 

NOTE
Confidence: 90% (HIGH)

00:45:00.500 --> 00:45:09.700
But again, that's not a limitation. That's life. So we are acknowledgeing and we start 

00:45:09.700 --> 00:45:19.200
thinking how this enters into our research and into the relationship with 

00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:24.900
our participants. When we start thinking this, that's called reflexivity in research.

NOTE
Confidence: 66% (MEDIUM)

00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:33.400
And that's it for today. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:44.550
So before the break, I will tell you about the activity we are going to do. 

00:45:44.550 --> 00:45:54.300
Today is very simple, it is very easy, relaxing.  

00:45:54.300 --> 00:46:03.600
For people on Zoom, we will go into breakout rooms,

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:46:03.600 --> 00:46:09.100
because I want you to work in small groups. While people here, you have 

00:46:09.100 --> 00:46:16.300
time for a break to organize yourself and your group. As you prefer, you can do it here in the classroom, or 

00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:23.500
you can go outside, even though it's not really sunny.  

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:52.900
Now let me let me explain what I would like you to do today. I have posted an article on 

00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:59.300
canvas this morning. It's a very short article of three pages. 


00:47:02.600 --> 00:47:13.000
It's in the anouncements section. It's a very short article, but it's a very groundbreaking article 

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:22.300
as you will see and it created a lot of discussion. So, what I would like you to do is, split 

00:47:22.300 --> 00:47:28.600
in groups, you choose four to six people.

NOTE
Confidence: 74% (MEDIUM)

00:47:29.900 --> 00:47:37.100
And this procedure will be the same every time. So just remember it.

00:47:37.100 --> 00:47:48.149
Each group should choose one speaker. Because, if you want to ask questions, 

00:47:48.149 --> 00:47:54.750
if you want to say something, just one person is going to speak. Otherwise, there will be too much 

00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:58.700
confusion. Than, I want to you take 

NOTE
Confidence: 78% (HIGH)

00:47:58.700 --> 00:48:06.300
20-25 minutes -- maybe it's too much time for you but people read differently -- to read the 

00:48:06.300 --> 00:48:14.350
article. It's in Canvas, but it's also open-acsess, so if you just Google it, you will find it. 

00:48:14.350 --> 00:48:23.700
So read it individually for 20, 25 minutes and than I would like you to have a 

00:48:23.700 --> 00:48:29.500
small group discussion. 


00:48:33.300 --> 00:48:43.050
In this group discussion, 

00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:48.300
what I want you to do is, to apply

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:48:48.300 --> 00:49:01.200
what we have learned and discuss this article. To help you in this, I have created some 

00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:09.900
questions that you can use to discuss.  

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:49:45.100 --> 00:49:53.500
So you have some triggering questions.

NOTE
Confidence: 73% (MEDIUM)

00:49:53.500 --> 00:50:04.000
These are not the only questions that you can ask about this article. I will give you just one 

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:16.500
one tip: This article is actually discussing ''What do we do in research, in behavioral sciences 

00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:18.900
is actually useful or not.

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:23.900
Or what we are doing is wrong and useless. ''

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:50:23.900 --> 00:50:33.100
So, it's just a simple question. Do you have any doubts or question about the task? Everything is 

00:50:33.100 --> 00:50:43.600
clear? Okay. Because we have limited time, I don't think we have time to meet again 

00:50:43.600 --> 00:50:54.200
and discuss like in afull session, so we can continue to use the ''discussion'' on Canvas, 

NOTE
Confidence: 71% (MEDIUM)

00:50:54.200 --> 00:50:59.100
if you have reflection and comments. I am trying to do as much as possible, but we have few 

00:50:59.100 --> 00:51:08.000
hours. I will be around the groups in case you have questions or things you want 

00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:16.600
to discuss. I will be around, as well as Hristina, Hakan and Sophia. They will help us all the 

00:51:16.600 --> 00:51:24.149
time when we have hands-on activities. Okay, so if you have questions, things you want to 

NOTE
Confidence: 85% (HIGH)

00:51:24.149 --> 00:51:32.000
talk about, just tell us and we will be around. Is it clear? The same applies for you people in their homes.  

00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.500
Okay, we'll work in breakout rooms. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:51:37.100 --> 00:51:46.000
Now we take the break. I will just leave this on. So just have a coffee, relax and decide the 

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:54.750
groups while we are on the break. 

NOTE
Confidence: 91% (HIGH)

00:51:54.750 --> 00:51:58.300
Okay guys, any question? 

NOTE
Confidence: 86% (HIGH)

00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:07.400
Super, thank you! Okay, now I'm stopping the recording. 